By the way, before people start flinging rocks at me, I don't agree with the above quotes.
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All morals are dead. Pedophilia soon to follow.
by defender of truth in13 jul 2014. trottigy, on 12 jul 2014 - 9:25 pm, said:.
"yes, sadly it is only a matter of time before pedophilia and incest becomes an "alternative lifestyle".
it was true in parts of canaan and rome.
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What is the "new" date JWs are "hinting" at for Armaggeddon?
by booker-t inafter the 1975 "we did not say point blank armaggeddon was coming we only suggested it might come" fiasco what is the new date jws are "hinting" at for armaggeddon?
i know now they do not point to any specific date but hint that maybe it might occur such as before 2000 the preaching work will be finished.
this is a suggestion not a prediction so they can wiggle out of this one.
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Stuckinarut:
" 1: "Watchtower conducter told us this system only has a max of 20 years left based on the over lapping generation."
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All morals are dead. Pedophilia soon to follow.
by defender of truth in13 jul 2014. trottigy, on 12 jul 2014 - 9:25 pm, said:.
"yes, sadly it is only a matter of time before pedophilia and incest becomes an "alternative lifestyle".
it was true in parts of canaan and rome.
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Posted12 July 2014 - 12:21 AM
"Actually, although disgusting, this was the next logical step in this decaying system after the acceptance of same sex-relationships. And, it's something I've been saying for many years (pat myself on the back). Those who support same-sex relationships threw out Biblical and "moral" arguments and now no one can use them to justify a stance against any form of adult consensual relationship. My argument was that, once same-sex relationships have legal recognition, on what grounds can they deny two same-sex adult siblings from being in a consensual relationship? The moral argument is no longer valid and the prevention of genetic defects doesn't apply. As long as both partners are of age, and consensual, they (those in this perverted system) can't deny the legality of their relationship without discriminating against them. Then, what if two opposite-sex siblings want to have a legally recognised relationship? On what grounds are they going to deny their relationship?"
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What is the "new" date JWs are "hinting" at for Armaggeddon?
by booker-t inafter the 1975 "we did not say point blank armaggeddon was coming we only suggested it might come" fiasco what is the new date jws are "hinting" at for armaggeddon?
i know now they do not point to any specific date but hint that maybe it might occur such as before 2000 the preaching work will be finished.
this is a suggestion not a prediction so they can wiggle out of this one.
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All morals are dead. Pedophilia soon to follow.
by defender of truth in13 jul 2014. trottigy, on 12 jul 2014 - 9:25 pm, said:.
"yes, sadly it is only a matter of time before pedophilia and incest becomes an "alternative lifestyle".
it was true in parts of canaan and rome.
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All morals are dead. Pedophilia soon to follow.
by defender of truth in13 jul 2014. trottigy, on 12 jul 2014 - 9:25 pm, said:.
"yes, sadly it is only a matter of time before pedophilia and incest becomes an "alternative lifestyle".
it was true in parts of canaan and rome.
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Eric_Milton
13 Jul 2014
trottigy, on 12 Jul 2014 - 9:25 PM, said:
"Yes, sadly it is only a matter of time before pedophilia and incest becomes an "alternative lifestyle". It was true in parts of Canaan and Rome. It is all part of the decay that often happen in Satan's governments.
I can just see it now . . .
"But I likehaving sex with children. It's not my fault; I was born that way. Any law against pedophilia is discriminatory!"
I thing that if the people of Sodom and Gomorrah came back in the resurrection, they would cringe in embarrassment. "
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Shunning Makes us Joyful - Another Blast on Jehovah's Trumpet
by cofty inlike all the best comedy this is hilarious and agonising in equal measure.. if you have not bookmarked the jehovah's trumpet blog do it now.. shunning makes us joyful .... "fiends, we are the happiest people on earth because of true worship, and this includes the practice of shunning our closest loved ones...".
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*This article is more thought provoking than I first realised. Thanks Cofty.*
"Did she followed through with the necessary adjustment? Hannah’s mother continues:
She did. I was so proud of her. I see this as positive training for the future. If statistics tell us anything, Hannah will one day have to shun one of her own children. By practicing on her kitten, she is preparing herself for bigger tests ahead. I have no doubt she will be able to withdraw all love and support from any future children she may have."
"That’s really encouraging! It must be awkward to still have the kitten in the house."
"Yes it is, but she’s still too small to legally throw out on the streets. You know? We just have to endure. Hannah doesn’t play with her or give her toys anymore. When she feeds her, she kind of slams the bowl down on the floor so that Skittles will understand how serious her sin is. Of course, we hope that Skittles repents so that we can accept her back with loving arms, but for now, she shows no signs of doing so. We have left it in Jehovah’s hands."
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Is sex abuse in the Wt that big of a problem
by joe134cd inbefore i start, i'm not a wt apologist and i am certainly not trying to minimise sex abuse.
i was looking at the amount of sex abuse cases in light of witness population.
just say wt ended up on paying out on 30,000 individual abuse cases.
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" My mother married an elder when I was 1 1/2 years old. He came from a family of pedophiles (also JW's) and I was a pet project. My mother allowed him to physically, mentally & sexually abuse me and my siblings because she was trying to be a "good Christian wife". Whatever that means? The creepo was not disfellowshipped when it came to light what he was doing. Mom and I were informed that he could not possibly be guilty since he cried. It was such a traumatic experience to be 10 years old and forced to tell three men (without your mother in the room) what had been done to me in detail. The question they kept repeating--"Are you sure it was not just affection?" I don't know too many sane people who mistake rape for affection. "
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Ironic quote in the 5/14wt lesson "Are you moving ahead with Jehovahs Organization"
by BU2B inthe whole article makes me ill with its worse than average mind control.. i was going to only include one quote but there are so many doozies that i will post what i feel to be the worst.. from paragraph 6.
"gods organization survives and flourishes on earth because the people who are part of it have his approval.".
the great tribulation has been "so close" for over 120 years of wt history.
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"Both Mormons and Seventh-day Adventists started at a similar period of time as the Watchtower Society and have similar numbers of members due to their active preaching. Seventh-day Adventists successfully preach the good news, including at peoples homes."
"For instance, a group renowned for their preaching efforts are Baptists. Baptists have the most missionaries of any religion. In 2004 there were 7 million Baptists out side of America, 600,000 baptisms and 21,000 new churches. In 2004 Witnesses baptised only 200,000 globally."
"Pentecostalism is the world's fastest-growing Christian movement with over 150 million adherents, growing at an estimated 19 million members per year."
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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You asked:"Do you think the decisions that the most intelligent men are able to make are keeping the earth and its inhabitants safe?
Do you think that God would still say that it is good?"
This question seems completely off topic. You are basically asking a rhetorical question of whether man causes many animals to suffer. Different topic. We're talking about why God allows animal suffering.
Still, if you want to propose that God has allowed man to ruin His creation, and that he originally created animals to not suffer, you would then have to provide a solid reason as to why God has allowed man to harm the animals, when He has the power to prevent it at any point.
Does He even care about them?
And, assuming that you will then begin to talk about man's free will being an important factor in letting people run around drowning kittens, setting fire to dogs, and stomping on swans until they die, ask yourself if you believe we should let animal abusers run free.. or do you feel it is right to imprison them?
Because you can't tell me, surely, that if you were God you would allow animals to be abused and murdered?
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I said: "Ablebodiedman, do you think that animals did not hunt each other before mankind existed?"
You replied:"I really do not know the answer to that question.."
.. Please research the subject then. I gave you an example to start you off, but there is plenty of evidence that animals did hunt and kill each other in violent and merciless battles for survival long before man's dominion over the earth began.
In which case, God's idea of all animal creation being 'good' involved an incredible amount of pain, violence and death, without there being any human mismanagement to blame.